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	<title>Leslie Rohde &#187; google</title>
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		<title>The Purported Death of PageRank Sculpting</title>
		<link>http://www.leslierohde.com/2009/06/12/the_purported_death_of_pagerank_sculpting/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 03:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[During the recent SMX-Advanced conference in Seattle &#8211; which I was not able to attend (I do occasionally have to work for a living) &#8211; there was a confusion of reports of comments attributed to Matt Cutts that resulted in the provocative (outlandish even?) conclusion that nofollow no longer works to sculpt PageRank, but in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>During the recent SMX-Advanced conference in Seattle &#8211; which I was not able to attend (I do occasionally have to work for a living) &#8211; there was a confusion of reports of comments attributed to Matt Cutts that resulted in the provocative (outlandish even?) conclusion that nofollow no longer works to sculpt PageRank, but in fact now causes PageRank to &quot;evaporate&quot; instead.</p>
<p>Dan Thies was at the show, witnessed the entire sordid ordeal and has editorialized on the matter in the way that only Dan can in a post he calls <a target="_blank" href="http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/googles-operation-bendover-exposed-nofollow-pagerank-sculpting">Operation BENDOVER</a> (Huh? You&#8217;ll just have to watch the video!).</p>
<p>Completely lacking as I am in Dan&#8217;s sense of humor, not to mention a suitable picture to trump the one he uses of me, I&#8217;ve instead resorted to my old standby &mdash; Math.  So for the real PageRank computations that show why this reported obit just does not &quot;add up&quot; see <a target="_blank" href="http://windrosesoftware.com/sculpting/">The Math of PageRank Sculpting</a>. And if you like that kind of thing, you&#8217;ll really dig the included PageRank algorithm written in 25 lines of Perl.</p>
<p>Finally, with humor and math taken care of, be sure to read <a target="_blank" href="http://andybeard.eu/1865/pagerank-sculpting-dead.html">Andy Beard&#8217;s take on the death of PageRank Sculpting</a>, but just remember that the real point of most &quot;news&quot; in SEO is the humor.</p>
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		<title>&#8220;&#8230;Google will determine&#8230;&#8221;?  Not on my site!</title>
		<link>http://www.leslierohde.com/2008/09/24/google_will_determine_not_on_my_site/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the StomperNet forums today I responded to a member who noticed a Google post here. Reproduced here is my acidic response. That was the most useless, vague, non-actionable and *irresponsible* post I have EVER seen from Google. It looks like something from webmasterworld or the warrior&#8217;s forum. The examples used are just plain stupid [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>In the <a target="_blank" href="http://www.stompernet.com">StomperNet</a> forums today I responded to a member who noticed a Google post <a target="_blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2008/09/dynamic-urls-vs-static-urls.html">here</a>.  Reproduced here is my acidic response.</p>
<p>That was the most useless, vague, non-actionable and *irresponsible* post I have EVER seen from Google. It looks like something from webmasterworld or the warrior&#8217;s forum. The examples used are just plain stupid and the sweeping generalization they make about Google somehow figuring out URL parameters is dangerously silly.</p>
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<li>No one would consider rewriting a (so-called) dynamic url into a &quot;static&quot; one while retaining the session id. I mean DUH! If you are smart enough to even be able to enable mod_rewrite how could you not know to turn off session ids when serving content to bots? Ridiculous example that serves to paint all rewriting as somehow dangerous. Worst still, why would anyone rewrite like the example shown? That&#8217;s plain stupid.</li>
<li>&quot; &#8230; Google will determine which parameters can be removed &#8230;&quot; &#8212; You have got to me Sh*t**g me! Is there anyone who can spell S-E-O that would like to just simply trust Google to &quot;determine&quot; what URLs should be the same and which should be different?? Not me thanks. My site. I&#8217;ll decide. If they get it wrong, you get flagged with widespread duplicate content and they don&#8217;t tell you about it.</li>
<li>They leave completely unanswered the OBVIOUS (just look at SERPs) problems they have today with session ids &#8212; not so good at &quot;determining&quot; after all, eh? At every single StomperNet Live event we&#8217;ve held, I have reviewed at least one site that had pages indexed at Google showing multiple different session id values. This is a widespread problem for sites that serve session ids to bots and for Google to publicly post about &quot;dynamic&quot; URLs and sweep this under the rug while vaguely claiming to handle it borders on misrepresentation.</li>
<li>They also don&#8217;t say a damn thing about parameter order &#8212; another place they fail COMPLETELY to &quot;determine&quot;. Example: p1=v1&amp;p2=v2 leads to the same content as p2=v2&amp;p1=v1 and this is a REQUIREMENT of the HTTP spec (named parameters are NOT positional so may appear in any order) but Google treats these as different URLs and will ignorantly and incorrectly index both URLs as different pages. This problems appears in several CMSs today, Endeca in particular has it bad.</li>
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